Rietveld Sandberg Research
What does it mean to [un]learn scripts? Our guests answer this question by bringing forward their practices and ways of knowing through topics like storytelling, archives, touch, emotion, rehearsal, and illness. Together, we seek to understand which stories matter and for whom, and to challenge the limiting, violent, and dominant scripts guiding the specific roles we perform in modern society. These scripts, however, are not written in ink - there are always possibilities to rewrite, revise and redefine them.
For these initial four episodes, nine artists-researchers who hosted a session together were invited to reflect on and deepen their initial exchange. They unpack what it means to [un]learn narratives that have been inscribed in us by discussing topics close to their various artistic practices.
Episode 1: [un]learning through touch and not-knowing with Rita Sousa and Kiek Korevaar


In the first episode we delve into the topic of embodied feminist knowledge, pedagogical thinking, and sensory learning - especially through touch, movement, and the experience of not-knowing. Our guests introduce movement methods and physical exercises that open up new ways of connecting with others through play and presence. You'll hear how their individual and collective artistic practices have evolved over time, and get a glimpse into the experiences and methods they hope to cultivate in the future.

Here you can find a link to the article “Embodying theory: A kinaesthetic proposal to feminist pedagogy” written by Rita Sousa, Kiek Korevaar, and Muhammad Khurram, in 2024.
Episode 2: [un]learning through (emotional) archives with Mariana Lanari and Joanne Igbuwe


In this second episode, we approach the archive as a source of knowledge, as a garden, as a storage, as a place of encounters for different stories. In our conversation, the guests address prevailing hierarchies of knowledge within the making of archives, whether on an institutional or personal level, and engage into a critical understanding of their artistic practices in relation to the process of archiving.

Here you can find links to Joanne’s and Mariana’s work:
www.instagram.com www.instagram.com www.archivalconsciousness.org
The podcast is hosted and edited by Iulia Aionesi, artistic researcher and art mediator based in Amsterdam.

Credits: Amir Baroud for jingles, ARIAS team for feedback support, and all guests for their contributions.